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Jon[_2_]
March 16th 07, 02:56 PM
I'm still working on my private but if my company sends me overseas
can I keep flying with my license? Real good chance I might be in the
Phillipines for a while.
Jon

Montblack
March 16th 07, 04:29 PM
("Jon" wrote)
> I'm still working on my private but if my company sends me overseas can I
> keep flying with my license? Real good chance I might be in the
> Phillipines for a while.


"PING" CJ Campbell of this group.

He is a (World Famous Flight Instructor) and just returned from an extended
stay in the Philippines, doing missionary work.

If your company sends you overseas, write it into your contract that they
will pay for x hrs of flight rental time per week. Otherwise they may nix
your plans to fly, altogether. Just a thought.


Montblack

C J Campbell[_1_]
March 16th 07, 11:43 PM
On 2007-03-16 07:56:10 -0700, "Jon" > said:

> I'm still working on my private but if my company sends me overseas
> can I keep flying with my license? Real good chance I might be in the
> Phillipines for a while.
> Jon

Magandang hapon.

I did not fly while in the Philippines but you can be sure that I
checked it out. :-) The main problem was that up in Laoag City where I
was there were no rental planes available.

There are rental planes available in Manila and at the old Clark AB in
Angeles. I don't know about Cebu or Davao, but they would be good bets,
too. The rental fleet is old, mostly 172L and M models. Cost is about
the same as in the US. I do know that my old 206 is in Davao, being
flown by an agricultural firm, and that some airplane owners in the
Philippines will rent to individuals.

Where there are rental airplanes there are instructors and flight
schools. The Air Transportation Office in Manila will issue you a
Philippine license on the basis of your American one with the same
restrictions and privileges. Satellite offices will not do; you have to
go to the one in Manila, in person, by appointment. They are unlikely
to ask for a bribe, but they might ask for 'handling fees' so that it
doesn't take six months to a year to process the paperwork.

The outfit at Clark has the best reputation for safety and that is
where the Philippines is planning to center its efforts for training
new airline and military pilots. There is a critical shortage there and
new pilots are strongly discouraged from leaving the country. Of
course, they might not have that critical shortage if they were willing
to pay more, but who am I to tell someone how to run his business?

The Philippines is mountainous, hot and humid, very rugged with large
areas of jungle. Storms are frequent; the Philippines gets more than a
dozen typhoons a year, with three or four of them being category 3
(Katrina) or higher. However, weather reporting systems are good except
in remote areas. Airfields marked on the map might not actually be in
use and could be completely overgrown or occupied by squatters, so it
is best to check things out first.

The country is about the size of Arizona, but broken up into many
islands, so being able to fly could be a real asset to your company.
Almost all the major islands have airfields.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

Borat
March 17th 07, 12:08 AM
"C J Campbell" > wrote in message
news:2007031616433375249-christophercampbell@hotmailcom...
> On 2007-03-16 07:56:10 -0700, "Jon" > said:
>
>> I'm still working on my private but if my company sends me overseas
>> can I keep flying with my license? Real good chance I might be in the
>> Phillipines for a while.
>> Jon
>
> Magandang hapon.
>
> I did not fly while in the Philippines but you can be sure that I checked
> it out. :-) The main problem was that up in Laoag City where I was there
> were no rental planes available.
>
> There are rental planes available in Manila and at the old Clark AB in
> Angeles. I don't know about Cebu or Davao, but they would be good bets,
> too. The rental fleet is old, mostly 172L and M models. Cost is about the
> same as in the US. I do know that my old 206 is in Davao, being flown by
> an agricultural firm, and that some airplane owners in the Philippines
> will rent to individuals.
>
> Where there are rental airplanes there are instructors and flight schools.
> The Air Transportation Office in Manila will issue you a Philippine
> license on the basis of your American one with the same restrictions and
> privileges. Satellite offices will not do; you have to go to the one in
> Manila, in person, by appointment. They are unlikely to ask for a bribe,
> but they might ask for 'handling fees' so that it doesn't take six months
> to a year to process the paperwork.
>
> The outfit at Clark has the best reputation for safety and that is where
> the Philippines is planning to center its efforts for training new airline
> and military pilots. There is a critical shortage there and new pilots are
> strongly discouraged from leaving the country. Of course, they might not
> have that critical shortage if they were willing to pay more, but who am I
> to tell someone how to run his business?
>
> The Philippines is mountainous, hot and humid, very rugged with large
> areas of jungle. Storms are frequent; the Philippines gets more than a
> dozen typhoons a year, with three or four of them being category 3
> (Katrina) or higher. However, weather reporting systems are good except in
> remote areas. Airfields marked on the map might not actually be in use and
> could be completely overgrown or occupied by squatters, so it is best to
> check things out first.
>
> The country is about the size of Arizona,
but unlike Arizona, it has a population of c 85 million about 30% of the US.

C J Campbell[_1_]
March 17th 07, 02:18 PM
On 2007-03-16 17:08:08 -0700, "Borat" > said:

>
> "C J Campbell" > wrote in message
> news:2007031616433375249-christophercampbell@hotmailcom...
>> On 2007-03-16 07:56:10 -0700, "Jon" > said:
>>
>>> I'm still working on my private but if my company sends me overseas
>>> can I keep flying with my license? Real good chance I might be in the
>>> Phillipines for a while.
>>> Jon
>>
>> Magandang hapon.
>>
>> I did not fly while in the Philippines but you can be sure that I checked
>> it out. :-) The main problem was that up in Laoag City where I was there
>> were no rental planes available.
>>
>> There are rental planes available in Manila and at the old Clark AB in
>> Angeles. I don't know about Cebu or Davao, but they would be good bets,
>> too. The rental fleet is old, mostly 172L and M models. Cost is about the
>> same as in the US. I do know that my old 206 is in Davao, being flown by
>> an agricultural firm, and that some airplane owners in the Philippines
>> will rent to individuals.
>>
>> Where there are rental airplanes there are instructors and flight schools.
>> The Air Transportation Office in Manila will issue you a Philippine
>> license on the basis of your American one with the same restrictions and
>> privileges. Satellite offices will not do; you have to go to the one in
>> Manila, in person, by appointment. They are unlikely to ask for a bribe,
>> but they might ask for 'handling fees' so that it doesn't take six months
>> to a year to process the paperwork.
>>
>> The outfit at Clark has the best reputation for safety and that is where
>> the Philippines is planning to center its efforts for training new airline
>> and military pilots. There is a critical shortage there and new pilots are
>> strongly discouraged from leaving the country. Of course, they might not
>> have that critical shortage if they were willing to pay more, but who am I
>> to tell someone how to run his business?
>>
>> The Philippines is mountainous, hot and humid, very rugged with large
>> areas of jungle. Storms are frequent; the Philippines gets more than a
>> dozen typhoons a year, with three or four of them being category 3
>> (Katrina) or higher. However, weather reporting systems are good except in
>> remote areas. Airfields marked on the map might not actually be in use and
>> could be completely overgrown or occupied by squatters, so it is best to
>> check things out first.
>>
>> The country is about the size of Arizona,
> but unlike Arizona, it has a population of c 85 million about 30% of the US.

Arizona is catching up, though. Pretty soon we are going to have to
just rename the state to "Downtown Phoenix," with Vegas, LA and Santa
Fe as "Suburban Phoenix."
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

Matt Whiting
March 17th 07, 02:32 PM
C J Campbell wrote:
> On 2007-03-16 17:08:08 -0700, "Borat" > said:
>
>>
>> "C J Campbell" > wrote in message
>> news:2007031616433375249-christophercampbell@hotmailcom...
>>> On 2007-03-16 07:56:10 -0700, "Jon" > said:
>>>
>>>> I'm still working on my private but if my company sends me overseas
>>>> can I keep flying with my license? Real good chance I might be in the
>>>> Phillipines for a while.
>>>> Jon
>>>
>>> Magandang hapon.
>>>
>>> I did not fly while in the Philippines but you can be sure that I
>>> checked
>>> it out. :-) The main problem was that up in Laoag City where I was there
>>> were no rental planes available.
>>>
>>> There are rental planes available in Manila and at the old Clark AB in
>>> Angeles. I don't know about Cebu or Davao, but they would be good bets,
>>> too. The rental fleet is old, mostly 172L and M models. Cost is about
>>> the
>>> same as in the US. I do know that my old 206 is in Davao, being flown by
>>> an agricultural firm, and that some airplane owners in the Philippines
>>> will rent to individuals.
>>>
>>> Where there are rental airplanes there are instructors and flight
>>> schools.
>>> The Air Transportation Office in Manila will issue you a Philippine
>>> license on the basis of your American one with the same restrictions and
>>> privileges. Satellite offices will not do; you have to go to the one in
>>> Manila, in person, by appointment. They are unlikely to ask for a bribe,
>>> but they might ask for 'handling fees' so that it doesn't take six
>>> months
>>> to a year to process the paperwork.
>>>
>>> The outfit at Clark has the best reputation for safety and that is where
>>> the Philippines is planning to center its efforts for training new
>>> airline
>>> and military pilots. There is a critical shortage there and new
>>> pilots are
>>> strongly discouraged from leaving the country. Of course, they might not
>>> have that critical shortage if they were willing to pay more, but who
>>> am I
>>> to tell someone how to run his business?
>>>
>>> The Philippines is mountainous, hot and humid, very rugged with large
>>> areas of jungle. Storms are frequent; the Philippines gets more than a
>>> dozen typhoons a year, with three or four of them being category 3
>>> (Katrina) or higher. However, weather reporting systems are good
>>> except in
>>> remote areas. Airfields marked on the map might not actually be in
>>> use and
>>> could be completely overgrown or occupied by squatters, so it is best to
>>> check things out first.
>>>
>>> The country is about the size of Arizona,
>> but unlike Arizona, it has a population of c 85 million about 30% of
>> the US.
>
> Arizona is catching up, though. Pretty soon we are going to have to just
> rename the state to "Downtown Phoenix," with Vegas, LA and Santa Fe as
> "Suburban Phoenix."

No, you'll run out of water before you get that big.

Matt

C J Campbell[_1_]
March 17th 07, 04:54 PM
On 2007-03-17 07:32:43 -0700, Matt Whiting > said:

> C J Campbell wrote:
>> On 2007-03-16 17:08:08 -0700, "Borat" > said:
>>
>>>
>>> "C J Campbell" > wrote in message
>>> news:2007031616433375249-christophercampbell@hotmailcom...
>>>> On 2007-03-16 07:56:10 -0700, "Jon" > said:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm still working on my private but if my company sends me overseas
>>>>> can I keep flying with my license? Real good chance I might be in the
>>>>> Phillipines for a while.
>>>>> Jon
>>>>
>>>> Magandang hapon.
>>>>
>>>> I did not fly while in the Philippines but you can be sure that I checked
>>>> it out. :-) The main problem was that up in Laoag City where I was there
>>>> were no rental planes available.
>>>>
>>>> There are rental planes available in Manila and at the old Clark AB in
>>>> Angeles. I don't know about Cebu or Davao, but they would be good bets,
>>>> too. The rental fleet is old, mostly 172L and M models. Cost is about the
>>>> same as in the US. I do know that my old 206 is in Davao, being flown by
>>>> an agricultural firm, and that some airplane owners in the Philippines
>>>> will rent to individuals.
>>>>
>>>> Where there are rental airplanes there are instructors and flight schools.
>>>> The Air Transportation Office in Manila will issue you a Philippine
>>>> license on the basis of your American one with the same restrictions and
>>>> privileges. Satellite offices will not do; you have to go to the one in
>>>> Manila, in person, by appointment. They are unlikely to ask for a bribe,
>>>> but they might ask for 'handling fees' so that it doesn't take six months
>>>> to a year to process the paperwork.
>>>>
>>>> The outfit at Clark has the best reputation for safety and that is where
>>>> the Philippines is planning to center its efforts for training new airline
>>>> and military pilots. There is a critical shortage there and new pilots are
>>>> strongly discouraged from leaving the country. Of course, they might not
>>>> have that critical shortage if they were willing to pay more, but who am I
>>>> to tell someone how to run his business?
>>>>
>>>> The Philippines is mountainous, hot and humid, very rugged with large
>>>> areas of jungle. Storms are frequent; the Philippines gets more than a
>>>> dozen typhoons a year, with three or four of them being category 3
>>>> (Katrina) or higher. However, weather reporting systems are good except in
>>>> remote areas. Airfields marked on the map might not actually be in use and
>>>> could be completely overgrown or occupied by squatters, so it is best to
>>>> check things out first.
>>>>
>>>> The country is about the size of Arizona,
>>> but unlike Arizona, it has a population of c 85 million about 30% of the US.
>>
>> Arizona is catching up, though. Pretty soon we are going to have to
>> just rename the state to "Downtown Phoenix," with Vegas, LA and Santa
>> Fe as "Suburban Phoenix."
>
> No, you'll run out of water before you get that big.
>
> Matt

They will insist on draining the Great Lakes first.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

Jim Logajan
March 17th 07, 11:17 PM
C J Campbell > wrote:
> Matt Whiting > said:
>> C J Campbell wrote:
>>> Arizona is catching up, though. Pretty soon we are going to have to
>>> just rename the state to "Downtown Phoenix," with Vegas, LA and
>>> Santa Fe as "Suburban Phoenix."
>>
>> No, you'll run out of water before you get that big.
>
> They will insist on draining the Great Lakes first.

That's actually been proposed. Along with diverting water from the Yukon
via the Rocky Mountain trench. Search for NAWAPA or read this:

http://comiterepubliquecanada.ca/English/Nawapa.htm

For another view of the underlying water issues and historical context, I
recommend reading the book "Cadillac Desert" by Marc Reisner. Very well
researched.

<soapbox>
The biggest issue I have with these grandiose plans is that they constitute
a form of water welfare or subsidy for people who insist on living and
developing in areas of limited water resources and then demand others pay
the price (in money, land access rights, and water rights) for their
choices.
</soapbox>

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